{"id":11187,"date":"2018-11-23T14:27:48","date_gmt":"2018-11-23T14:27:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/?p=11187"},"modified":"2020-10-28T19:02:52","modified_gmt":"2020-10-28T19:02:52","slug":"dr-sc-drazen-zivic-utvrdivanje-zrtava-trebao-bi-biti-nacionalni-znanstveni-projekt-22-11-2018","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/2018\/11\/dr-sc-drazen-zivic-utvrdivanje-zrtava-trebao-bi-biti-nacionalni-znanstveni-projekt-22-11-2018\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr. sc. Dra\u017een \u017divi\u0107: &#8220;Utvr\u0111ivanje \u017ertava trebao bi biti nacionalni znanstveni projekt&#8221;, 22. 11. 2018."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Portal i tiskano izdanje Glasa Slavonije od 22. studenoga 2018. objavljuju tekst pod naslovom &#8220;Za &#8216;istinu i povijest&#8217; sla\u017eu popis vukovarskih \u017ertava. Franjevci predano rade na popisu jer smatraju da ih na to obvezuje povijest&#8221; u sklopu kojeg i izjavu dr. sc. Dra\u017eena \u017divi\u0107a pod naslovom &#8220;Utvr\u0111ivanje \u017ertava trebao bi biti nacionalni znanstveni projekt&#8221;.<\/strong> \u2212 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.glas-slavonije.hr\/382616\/1\/Za-istinu-i-povijest-slazu-popis-vukovarskih-zrtava\">Glas Slavonije<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Popis.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11183 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Popis_s.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"410\" height=\"272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Popis_s.jpg 410w, https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Popis_s-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Popis_s-310x205.jpg 310w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Zivic.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11185 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Zivic_s.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"210\" height=\"272\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.glas-slavonije.hr\/382616\/1\/Za-istinu-i-povijest-slazu-popis-vukovarskih-zrtava\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11186 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Zrtve.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"933\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Zrtve.jpg 620w, https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Zrtve-199x300.jpg 199w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2212 Glas Slavonije:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.glas-slavonije.hr\/382616\/1\/Za-istinu-i-povijest-slazu-popis-vukovarskih-zrtava\">SLU\u017dBENOG POPISA NEMA NI NAKON 27 GODINA. Za \u201cistinu i povijest\u201d sla\u017eu popis vukovarskih \u017ertava. Franjevci predano rade na popisu jer smatraju da ih na to obvezuje povijest, 22. studenoga 2018.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Dr. sc. Dra\u017een \u017divi\u0107: Utvr\u0111ivanje \u017ertava trebao bi biti nacionalni znanstveni projekt<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Dra\u017een \u017divi\u0107, voditelj vukovarskog podru\u010dnog centra Instituta dru\u0161tvenih znanosti \u201cIvo Pilar\u201d izjavio je kako \u201cpostoje objektivni razlozi\u201d zbog kojih do danas nema cjelovitog popisa vukovarskih \u017ertava jer nedostaju podaci o svim kategorijama poginulih. Znanstveno je opravdano, dodaje, da se ukupne \u017ertve analiziraju, utvr\u0111uju, interpretiraju po kategorijama &#8211; branitelji, civili, nestali&#8230; Ka\u017ee i da su se popisi \u017ertava radili prema raznim slu\u017ebenim evidencijama, ali i da postoje \u017ertve za koje nitko nije podnosio zahtjeve jer obitelji nema, a nitko javno nije pozvao da ljudi do\u0111u i ka\u017eu \u0161to znaju. \u201cKoliko mi je poznato, poziv vukovarskih franjevaca prvi je poku\u0161aj da se i na taj na\u010din prikupe podaci, i dr\u017eim da je to pozitivno, a k tome se i oni oslanjaju na niz ve\u0107 su\u017ebeno prikupljenih podataka\u201d, ka\u017ee \u017divi\u0107, dodaju\u0107i i da takvi podaci uvijek moraju biti provjereni iz vi\u0161e izvora. \u201cInicijativa franjevaca je dobar i vrijedan korak naprijed jer bi se mogle popuniti praznine, ono \u0161to ostane izvan slu\u017ebenog dosega, i pomo\u0107i \u0107e da se pribli\u017eimo istini. Zaklju\u010duje pak da bi \u201cutvr\u0111ivanje svih vukovarskih \u017ertava trebao biti veliki nacionalni, znanstveni projekt\u201d.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/2018\/04\/podruni-centar-vukovar-2\/\">Podru\u010dni centar Vukovar<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Portal i tiskano izdanje Glasa Slavonije od 22. studenoga 2018. objavljuju tekst pod naslovom &#8220;Za &#8216;istinu i povijest&#8217; sla\u017eu popis vukovarskih \u017ertava. Franjevci predano rade na popisu jer smatraju da ih na to obvezuje povijest&#8221; u sklopu kojeg i izjavu dr. sc. Dra\u017eena \u017divi\u0107a pod naslovom &#8220;Utvr\u0111ivanje \u017ertava trebao bi biti nacionalni znanstveni projekt&#8221;. \u2212&hellip; <a class=\"continue\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vegaintro-projekti.com\/pilar-stari\/2018\/11\/dr-sc-drazen-zivic-utvrdivanje-zrtava-trebao-bi-biti-nacionalni-znanstveni-projekt-22-11-2018\/\">Pro\u010ditaj vi\u0161e o<span> Dr. sc. Dra\u017een \u017divi\u0107: &#8220;Utvr\u0111ivanje \u017ertava trebao bi biti nacionalni znanstveni projekt&#8221;, 22. 11. 2018.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":11180,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[48,12],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Dr. sc. 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